Myths and heresies in church today

It is with a sad heart that we at the ecclesia framework write this article but felt the leading of the spirit to spell this out for the done with church and God’s heart to return  to a pure ecclesia  modelled in the heavenly realms. These are ones I have seen numerous examples of in my work as a Christian leadership coach.

We also saw a hard heart when contacting over 750 churches where few showed any openess to consider what they were doing despite figures like 65m in America alone being done with church but in love with God.

It is our conclusion that the majority of church practice is not biblical and not a good learning environment and has lost significant influence in society as a result . We are often keeping Christians busy thinking they are learning about God and serving him in church but dominion in society is the real biblical purpose and restoring  it to “as it is in heaven.”

Traditional church models are not good learning models with little evaluation done of whether people are growing. A lot is based around numbers attending which is not a good signal that people are really having dominion over the earth or loving. Many social projects are done on a small scale whereas working with more professional operations can increase the visibility of Christians and impact on a greater scale. (More principles to

  •  We need to go to a church in one fixed location for years – organic constantly changing and morphing was the OT and New Testament model
  • Church is face to face otherwise it is not real discipling
  • Real ministry is done in church not in everyday life so our calling is not that important as we are serving church vision
  • If we question anything in church it is not honouring – debate was part of early church and is healthy to stop heresy
  • The bible is the be all and end all. Jesus is the word of God and to fully hear from God we must know how to recognise the Father’s voice. We can make the bible say many things by using it out of context. A lot of teachers only know what they were taught in college
  • We support the pastors vision
  • We must tithe all our money to the local church
  • Paying pastors salary is biblical- helping the poor was priority not buildings in the bible.
  • Bringing people into church is the best form of discipling
  • Worship is singing songs written by others – worship is being a living sacrifice . Praise and thanksgiving should come from our own lips from genuine reflection on the goodness of God like the cherubim over the arc.
  • Finances are private in churches. Accountability and excellence are biblical models.
  • Boards of business men or young elders  over a church is biblical
  • You submit to the leaders. Mutual submission is biblical.

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12 Challenging Questions for Every Christian Leader

8questions_blog1By Peter Sewell

Ever since I was a young boy I have been asking questions. In fact, I make a living out of asking people questions. In my experience I have found questions offer the biggest growth experiences. This week I have chosen 12 of the most important questions that leaders can ask themselves in order to see growth and positive change in their church.

1. Do I equip and support every person to serve in their area of gifting?

(Eph 4:12; 2Ti 2:2; 1 Cor 4:15)

Leaders are often quick to vocally support people, but slow to involve people in practical ways. Empowering leaders recognise the value of involving every person and equipping them to serve. Poor leaders withhold opportunities from others, prefer to do ministry alone, and create conditions that limit ministry to a very few. In the New Testament church, Barnabus mentored Paul, and Paul actively mentored Timothy, Titus and others. Individual mentoring can help people to identify their gifts, and involve them in practical ways.

2. Do we have counsel and support from ministries outside our church? 

(2 Tim 3:10; 1 Cor 4:17; Prov 11:14)

One of the inescapable realities of life is that the longer we function in any role, the more self sufficient we feel. On one hand, self sufficiency is a sign of maturity. On the other hand, it is the breading ground for blind spots, meaning that we fail to see our weaknesses. Pro 11:14 says, “Where no counsel is, the people fall: but in the multitude of counsellors there is safety”. Over the last few years we have started to see the restoration of Apostolic and Teaching gifts to guide churches by asking the right questions, and giving them insight to areas they are currently overlooking.

3. Do we ensure the ministry involvement of each person matches their gifts?

(1 Cor 12; Eph 4:16; 1 Pet 4:10)

Leaders often wonder how they can get more people to volunteer. The question that leaders need to be asking is how they can support people to serve in areas of their interest and gifts. During the last week I had complete strangers from the other side of the world volunteering to help me on a project. I didn’t have to give them a motivational talk or any incentive. I just found a group of people already doing what I needed, I sent them a polite message, and they not only volunteered to help but offered to do much more than I had even requested. Tap into the interests of every person in your congregation and you will have a different church. Of course, the floor still needs cleaning, but when people feel appreciated and excited about using their gifts to serve, they always go beyond what they are asked to do.

4. Are times of prayer an inspiring experience for our members?

(Col 4:2; Act 4:31; Matt 6)

I often hear church leaders complain about the low attendance of their prayer meetings. I have been blessed by being in churches with an exceptionally high attendance in prayer meetings. Some of the things they had in common were: convenient prayer times, prophecy and spiritual gifts, small groups or triads, reading of scripture, testimonies, and spontaneous singing. I believe every Christian desires to pray, but unfortunately not every Christian has had the opportunity to actively participate in prayer. In 1904, there were 30,000 people in Melbourne Australia who were praying daily in prayer groups.

5. Are we aware of the needs in our community?

(Acts 11:28; 9:39; 2:45; 4:35; Mat 25:35, 36)

Throughout the New Testament there are many examples of ministering to the needs within the community. They collected offerings for famine relief (Acts 11:28), made coats and garments as an act of charity to the poor (Acts 9:39), sold possessions and distributed to those who had need (Acts 2:45; 4:35). The words of Jesus should challenge us to be aware of those in need, both in our congregations and communities. Mat 25:35,36 says, “For I was hungry, and you gave me food; I was thirsty, and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger, and you took Me in; I was naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me”.

6. Do we continue to evaluate the effectiveness of everything we do?

(Luke 14:28; Mar 7:13)

In recent years much has been written about the decline of traditional churches. As you drive through the Australian countryside, you will find many abandoned churches. In the same way, in recent years we have seen many large companies such as Borders, and Blockbuster, close their doors. They failed to change with the times and suffered from the global competition of the internet. In the same way, many churches are deaf to what is happening around them. Leaders need to continually question whether there are any unhelpful traditions developing and make changes.

7. Do we know which members of our church have the gift of evangelism?

(Eph 4:11; Act 21:8; Mark 16:15,20)

We are all called to share the wonderful good news with those around us; however there are those in the body of Christ who are especially gifted as evangelists. Identifying these people and supporting them offers the biggest return on investment. Think about how much your church spends on advertising and evangelistic outreach each year, then carefully consider how much of your resources, finance and time is invested into those who are gifted in the area of evangelism. Do you train them? Do you send them away for training? What might happen if every church invested in those that are regularly bringing friends to church? Statistics suggest that on average, up to ten percent of your congregation have the gift of evangelism. There are many ways you can support these people, but the best way to start is by asking them.

8. Do we involve young people in our ministry team?Christian-Group-at-Cross

(1Ti 4:12; Tit 2:15; Acts 2:17)

One of the greatest failures of the western church is not involving young people in ministry roles. We are great at saying goodbye as they leave for bible school, but sadly fail at giving them responsibility and support when they return. We are quick to point out their weaknesses, and make generalized statements about their lack of discipline. We accuse them of being irresponsible, but never stop to think that we might be contributing to their behaviour. When you view people as being responsible they will act responsible. Titus and Timothy were both young men, yet they were appointed to the role of overseeing churches and responsible for appointing elders. Paul encouraged both young men not to let anyone despise, depreciate, disesteem, or thinking badly of them in any way.

9. Are our worship services an inspiring experience for everyone?

(1 Thess 5:16-19; 1Co 14:26)

Whether this is a relevant question at all is debatable. After all, “it’s not about how we feel”, right? Nevertheless, there are several points we can learn from the above scriptures which I believe are guidelines that ensure services are inspiring. The first is that personal involvement from every member is encouraged. The second is that all things be done to build each other up. If people are regularly walking out of a service feeling unloved, judged, or more depressed when they entered, there’s something wrong. Church services, in whatever form that take, should lead to an encounter with God, in an environment where members build each other up.

10. Is attending our church a joyful experience for our members?

(Gal 5:22; Prov 17:22; Ps 126:2; Phil 4:4)

In the book of Galatians we are told that one of the fruit of a believers’ life is joy. A healthy church is therefore, without doubt, a place with lots of joy. Yes, there will be times of sadness and grief, but the life of a believer should not be characterized by sadness. Even during times of persecution, as the New Testament church faced, Paul encouraged believers to rejoice. The world desperately needs more joy, and any place where believers gather together should be somewhere with lots of joy and laughter.

11. Does our church promote the multiplication of small groups?

(Tit 1:5; Acts 14:23; Acts 20:20; Acts 5:42)

Much research has been done on the benefits of small groups. I don’t particularly want to reference that here. Instead I would like to ask the more important question, assuming we accept that small groups are helpful and even necessary for Christians to grow in their faith, do you have a strategy in place to multiply the number of groups? This question also relates to leadership ability, and also causes us to consider what we value. Empowering leaders are motivated to duplicate themselves and place people in roles of responsibility. Dominant models of leadership tend to withhold responsibility, and lack the trust to release people into leadership roles.

12. Do our members regularly invite someone home for a meal or cup of coffee?

(Acts 2:46; 16:15, 34; 28:30; 1Peter 4:9; Heb 13:1,2)

Even though the word ‘hospitality’ only appears a few times throughout the New Testament, the practise of showing hospitality was practised consistently by all followers of Jesus. Believers meet in houses and fellowshipped regularly around food. Hospitality also often extended to having people stay with them. I truly believe that hospitality has been overlooked as one of the things that have played a significant role in the revivals we are currently witnessing around the world. In the midst of our technology jungle, face to face relationships are needed more and more. I read a comment recently saying how sad it was that people would happily send a text wishing them happy birthday, but not take the take to call and arrange a coffee date. Can our churches be an example of loving relationships that the world desperately needs?

What is the one question that you find most challenging? Are there other questions you have found helpful in the past? Let us know. We would love to hear from you.


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Tired of being a Church Tweaker?

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Why I broke down in tears at “The Future of the Church Summit”

This is probably one of the best videos I have ever seen on the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ. Are you tired of making adjustments (Tired of being a Church Tweaker) to the current model of Church? Are you ready to have you heart and mind opened to what the Lord intends to do in the 21st Century? I dare you to take time to hear this video.

Much love to all

Jose

According to Josh Packard in his scrupulously researched book, Church Refugees, there are currently 65,000,000 believers in the USA who are “done” with church, but not their faith. These are not the so-often-caricaturized “rebellious” “wounded” and “bitter” “Jezebels” and “heretics.” These are often the best and the brightest, the finest and the most committed to Christ. There are another 7,000,000 “on their way to being done.” There are currently 65,000,000 in the US who self-identify as being part of an organized church. Folks, half, or greater, of those who confess Christ in the USA, are DONE.

Do you not think that some self-reflection in leadership is in order instead of self-defensiveness, excuses, rationalizations, self-justifications, program-tweaking, accusations, and labeling of everyone who leaves as “having a problem with authority” and other slanderous labels? I propose that thinking 65,000,000 people are all “rebels” “missing God” and “outside of His will” to be a preposterous, and outlandish proposition grounded in hubris, because of issues of ego, money, control, and power that make self-reflection impossible.

Could it not be that maybe there is something fundamentally out of whack in what we have been calling “church” and “leadership” in the west? Could it not be that 65,000,000 folks might have a point or two worth considering rather than labeling, black-listing, and scape-goating them?

Steve Crosby

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Joshua Programme

joshua-generation-800x351The Joshua Generation seeks to raise up the next generation.  Multiplication of passionate followers of Christ,  is so important to seriously impact the earth .

For those that are serious about becoming a forerunner and facilitating the new ecclesia – Jane Johnson CEO of Ecclesia Framework is  offering 4  places for the first to meet the criteria.

  • Monthly coaching over zoom (live).
  • Unlimited Email support.
  • Access to a small  messenger group to receive and post.
  • Cost – no cost we are fully funded.

Qualities we are looking for – 

Reliable, open to new revelation, available, willing to give up certain things to make time for seeking heavenly realms. Willing to make a 4 month minimum commitment to the program.

Able to articulate their scroll/mandate and see in the spirit.

Disciplined nature- not easily sidetracked.

Passion to restore earth as it is in heaven.

About Jane –

Jane  has been given a scroll to bring reformation to the ecclesia . She has been ordained in heaven with authority, kingly  and apostolic function and been given an orb, fiery sword and blue ring and a role in the higher courts to evidence this.

She has been legislating in the courts  for some time now and is the founder of the Ecclesia Framework, the heavenly realms Facebook page and author of  the  Ecclesia Framework and Heavenly Blueprint of New Ecclesia.

She is a very experienced  and highly qualified christian leadership coach, previous  ministry leader,  author, founder of a social enterprise, chair of the board  founder of 3 online businesses . She resides in Melbourne Australia, has been married for 30 yrs and has 2 adult sons.

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Jane has worked in many different leadership capacities from being a professionally qualified Christian Leadership Coach for 13 years to many Christian leaders, to leading a ministry with the Navigators, to being a Senior Learning and Development Manager of a multimillion corporation, advising the management team on strategic approaches to get the best out of their people. She has developed considerable experience with Investors in People taking several companies through to successful accreditation and training as a consultant for them. Hence she understands the amazing impact a tool based on this principle can have.

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Stumbling Blocks to Accessing Heaven 

Written by Jane Johnson, founder of Ecclesia Framework

keystoheavenOne of my longstanding mandates from the lord has been to remove the stumbling a blocks out of the way of gods people.

These are some stumbling blocks  I have discerned in the heavenly realms that can or are stopping people from entering fully the holy of holies.

Fear of man.

Fear of heresy.

Fear of things not being in the bible or as revealed by current teachers.

Fear of letting our imagination be free and having faith as a little child.

Lack of excellence – saying it is okay to have different expressions of church so miss the biblical / heavenly blueprint.

Fear of lack of community and so holding on to old wineskins.

Trading on wrong platforms maybe even attending a church not based on good principles.

Holding on to old mandates / areas of service.

Believing not worthy to give to anyone or I will give when I know more.

Always want to cleanse and never feeling good enough.

Stubbornness to change – always done it this way or that way won’t work.

Spirit of greed just wanting the blessing for our own circumstances.

Deaf and dumb spirit caused by feeling comfortable, having a fixed mindset and setting up camp in one place spiritually.

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Areas for New People

Written by Jane Johnson, Founder of Ecclesia Framework

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(One of the Keys is to balance between cleansing, intimacy and responsibility)

  1. How to access your first love gate (see mike parsons free you tubes or freedom arc blogs).
  2. Undertaking the marriage covenant with God (see Clayton podcast).
  3. Opening your gateways (Clayton book) and dealing with negative trading floors – see trading floors below and gateway page here (these are ongoing so this does not need to stop you moving on to the next stage).
  4. Restoring your crowns (read Ian Clayton’s book).
  5. Bloodline cleansing (Operating in the courts book by Robert Henderson).
  6. How to see in the spirit (can start using faith and imagination gateways and choose to go to places even if you can’t see).
  7. Entering the four chambers of the heart (Garden of God , the dance floor  the soaking room and the bridal chamber).
  8. Learning the court system and agreeing with the accuser (see separate page on courts).
  9. Finding your scroll and (ask to be taken to the scroll room) see free calling tool at this site.
  10. Bringing court cases and legislating on your mountains of authority.
  11. Finding other places to access God (see Concepts page Ecclesia Framework website). You set your desire to want to access these and begin to imagine you are there.

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Jane has worked in many different leadership capacities from being a professionally qualified Christian Leadership Coach for 13 years to many Christian leaders, to leading a ministry with the Navigators, to being a Senior Learning and Development Manager of a multimillion corporation, advising the management team on strategic approaches to get the best out of their people. She has developed considerable experience with Investors in People taking several companies through to successful accreditation and training as a consultant for them. Hence she understands the amazing impact a tool based on this principle can have.

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