People’s stories of their experience in church 

From the CEO of Church Excellence Framework

These are the stories of real people and their experience of church. It will make you think!!!

Annette’s Story (changed name )

I had a great start to my Christian walk with lots of one-on-one discipling, love, people helping me find my spiritual gifts and then encouraging me to take a part in using them. I was encouraged to study the bible and apply it and understand about evangelism and constantly be encouraged to think who am I reaching out to and discipling. But having moved area my experiences in church went downhill from there, being subjected to little support in applying my gifts or people knowing where I felt called , suspicion or just lack of interest. I was only offered a sermon and a small group which was often more preaching or a DVD. I had little opportunity to build quality relationships as most was content orientated. If we set something up as a ministry it often did not get the support from top leaders and so often fizzled. I kept believing there was a different form out there but each one focused on one thing whereas I wanted all the aspects that I found in the bible. I wanted to pray with my leaders, be encouraged to evangelize in the workplace, help them find my gifts and provide an opportunity for mentoring / coaching that would have kept me engaged. I also wanted leaders of departments to serve the bigger need by bringing in others not taking control of their dept in the way that suited them. I wanted the church to share clearly where it felt God was leading us in the next year and what is what seeking to achieve in more detail than broad mission statements ( not keep that hidden to avoid accountability)  and to place more emphasis round people development  I still believe church can provide all this and with a lot of quick changes we can bring it back to more of a biblical model .  I don’t know how much more I can stand from what I see in church today. I love God passionately and want to see leaders understand there are lots of us who feel this way and to understand it is their responsibility to change something.

Andrew’s Story (name changed)

I have been a Christian over 30 years  with a short spell in ministry. Most of my career has been in a secular sphere where I rose to the highest level affording me the privilege to choose not to work. My church experience has left me disengaged with the church. I honestly believe business works in a more honoring and trusting way than any church I have been to. In business a new starter is quickly brought in, trusted and past experience valued and sought. Roles are given appropriate to the person and individual development plans created. Feedback and coaching are the norm. Now, I am not so naive as to say all business is like that , but I do wish the church would have honored me in that way . We have a great god who wants us to show more to the world of his love and transforming power.

 Life outside the church –Richard’s story

It’s a long story but in 2008 after twenty-three years of pastoral ministry, I unexpectedly found myself working in the community development sector of local government. In Council, my institutionalised church mind was stretched as I observed God’s work in the world being implemented by agencies other than the church through the development and delivery of policies anBUILDING A Church that is relevant for future generationsd programs that were contributing to a more just, equitable and livable society. Up until then, I’d seen the church as the sole facilitator of the missio Dei (the mission of God).

The change in career also ushered me into the long forgotten world of the congregation member. Gracing the pews was a disconcerting experience. I was alarmed to find how disempowering, uninspiring and theologically inept the average church service could be when you weren’t the leader. I regularly found myself saying to my wife , “Please tell me we didn’t do this to people”. Disillusioned, I stopped attending church as I’d traditionally known it.

The decision to re-engage with pastoral ministry after two years working at Council wasn’t easy. But I felt compelled to help curate a space centred around God as a relational community; somewhere inclusive in which people were given a voice; where we weren’t too quick to provide answers but gave room for questions and doubt; where love was more important than everyone believing the right thing; light on programs but big on encouraging people to see themselves as carriers of God’s kingdom wherever they went.

Carey’s Story

Why I have moved away from Christian Churches.

I really believed with all my heart I am called by God to preach and teach His Word and for the last few years that has been by aim to lead a church. I volunteered countless hours in church, gave thousands to church, attend bible College and leadership programs all to head towards my dream of running a church. I now realise that none of what I had done is biblical including all the money spent within the church. I had a stirring in my heart that what I was hearing and seeing in Christian churches was not biblical and this stirring began after reading in the bible and how the early church began and I sort out to investigate more about the early church, through scripture, books and websites. Since my studies on the early church I now see that where I was heading was not at all biblical, I was heading straight into a manmade system of religion and most of which is stardom, fame and attraction to be the top preacher in town with the best looking building. Thankfully that’s not my direction anymore; to teach and preach is and we are all called to this however it will be in an Ecclesia group. I want to encourage you to read the book, Pagan Christianity by Viola and  Barna, you will read what you already know to be true in your heart.

How does contemporary preaching help us today? Are we growing spiritually or does it stagnate us?

I believe it stagnates us and stops the spiritual growth in our lives and all the evidence is in the bible to support this, and the way in which preaching is done today has not been authored by God. It all began with Pagan Christianity and then stardom preaching and buildings become popular with the reign of Constantine. Preaching today is very different from the early church it does not resemble how church was if we look through scripture.

Ecclesia is the original church, the called out ones of God who came together in a group in their houses to worship, preach, teach, exalt and encourage each other all together and there is no hierarchy of leadership. Ecclesia is all of us experience Jesus Christ together, we are each called out by God and are equal with each other, and we are each there to present our gifting from God to help grow the body which is us the believer. Everyone has an opportunity to share Christ together as we are inspired by God to talk and present Him in the group. We each are able to talk, discuss, open questions and allow the Holy Spirit to move freely, by coming together in the original form of Ecclesia we are able to grow spiritually. We are all active participants, there are no set agenda’s, no Pastor, no worship team and communion is a meal that we have together to be joyful in what Christ has done for us.

Today it seems Ecclesia is lost, we attend church like a lower ranked minister of Christ, we do not need to  be ordained or gone to bible college to be able to stand up on the stage and preach. I know I felt many times not good enough to be like the Pastor or visiting Pastors, that they are so much more blessed by God than me, you could say I looked at them like they are God. I felt I had to ask permission to speak up if the Spirit of God had laid something on my heart, and then in no way did I want to approach the front where all the super leaders are and if I did would they let me speak? I felt like everything was a Sunday motion that you go through, its ‘Super Spiritual Sunday’ I get to dress up, be god like and I tried to fit in with all the top leaders so that I can move up in the ranks. What I was seeing and being taught within my church made me feel like this, that I had to prove myself to be someone before I could get to the next level. This is exactly what Jesus came to abolish; religion a manmade system of rules and making people feel they are less in God.

I’m not being hard, I love all my Christian brothers and sisters although I don’t have to agree with what they do. Please read all about the early church and scripture so that you can fully understand how it has become a religion. Here is a little from the ‘Pagan Christianity’:

‘Is Preaching and teaching the Word of God scriptural? Yes, But the contemporary pulpit sermon is not the equivalent of the preaching and teaching that is found in the Scriptures. It cannot be found in Judaism of the Old Testament, the Ministry of Jesus or the life of the primitive church. What is more, Paul told his Greek converts that he refused to be influenced by the communication patters of his pagan contemporaries (1 Corinthians 1:17, 22, 2:1-5)….The sermon was conceived in the womb of Greek rhetoric. It was born into the Christian community when pagans-turned Christians began to bring their oratorical styles of speaking into the church’….

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